I just wrote a whole post, a long post, a detailed post and then I read it back and it was crap so I deleted it. Four hours of working on it (a piece of creative writing about suicide) and its gone. A click of a button and its gone, like it never even existed and along with it went those hours of my life. If there was a delete button for my life I wonder if I would hit it.
I wrote about death, suicidal thoughts, bleak life, destruction and then read it back and it was all a squealing bunch of para-suicide, no real depth to a subject that is so serious. And then I read the first few pages of Nick Hornby’s “A long way down”, my sister said it was a good read but I was disappointed. The similarities between my deleted post and the book were unbearable; the slapstick nature suicide was referred to with filled with one-liners and barely a glimmer of the mental pain required to underpin the decision to top yourself. Like the bit in the novel when Martin marks himself smugly against Aaron T Beck’s Suicide Intent Scale (‘I got something like 21 out of 30 points’), it seems more like the fruits of an Internet search than an attempt to articulate despair from within. When he says that suicide wasn’t even a serious thought, when Maureen compares it to queue jumping. I am fed up with the way suicide is referred to in this way, how people constantly mention it in off hand ways, how a friend called her dog suicidal because it ran out of the house onto a road, how people can get away posting videos like this, how everyone jokes about it. Its not funny, its not an easy decision you try it when you have nothing else left to try, when its the only positive thing you have left to do.
That on a poster advertising counselling that said “need someone to talk to?” someone wrote “go kill yourself” that this poster has stayed up on the common room notice board for six months, that no one mentioned it, that someone thought it was funny to write this. Every time I see or hear things like this I want to scream that its not funny, that its such a difficult decision to take, that you will always remember the taste and smell of paracetamol in your mouth and that if you fail you have to see your friends and family trying to understand what you did, that whenever your little sister comes home from school she will look around the house for you just in case she finds a slumped body and needs to call an ambulance. I am not writing this as one of those preachy people who tell people not to kill themselves, and hope I have not come cross as one of them. I am really writing this because I am so fucking fed up with how the whole topic is treated, that when I typed suicide into youtube instead of finding a video from someone like the samaritans I found the one in the link above.
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Not a very creative post today, not really an anything post today, just a rant. I am very busy writing a draft post for later this week that is taking up a lot of time but I am enjoying. On that note can people tell me what there favourite songs are and who the are by, answers on a postcard or comments bellow, and no I am not being strange its all to do with the post that I am writing.
15 Comments
July 2, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Good post – I think someone would treat suicide in a slap stick way because…
1 – they’re scared of the subject, so put up a front
2 – they’re empty-headed morons
3 – they’re so together they can’t get it at all – highly unlikely really
Fave song is probably Yield by Pearl Jam because it reminds me of my brother or Sometimes (Lester Piggot) by James.
July 2, 2008 at 7:13 pm
My favourite songs change all the time and I have too many to really just pick one. I love music too much.
Funnyman by KT Tunstall has been one that has stuck with me a lot recently and it’s significance is obviously important (the song is about KT Tunstall’s friend Gordon Anderson from the Beta Band – he was mentally ill)
July 2, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Low – Point of Disgust
Portishead – Glory Box
Johnette Napolitano – Wedding theme from Candy
I know what you mean about suicide being trivialised.
xx
July 2, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Chuckle- I like your option three but I do think that most people re option two on this topic, because its so hard to understand unless you have been there. And thats how society teaches us to respond
Intothe system- I relly like the funnyman song too, especaily i the way that it doesnt patronise but is also thoughtful and pretty accurate.
Eccedenhtduhdodhuisa- Thanks for the music infomation, all will become very clear soon about why I am doing this research
Hounds of love by Kate bush or the futureheads is my all time fave song, but at the moment I have been listening to alot of this weather by Patrick Wolf.
July 2, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I can understand why you’re upset about it all being treated so glibly, it’s wrong on many many levels. Now having said that let me apologize for the nasty little squirrel cartoon I posted earlier this week…
My all-time favorite song is “Into the Mystic” by Van Morrison.
July 2, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I like the chuckle’s list..
I can’t decide which of the three my boss fits under. He doesn’t get it, but I can’t work out if it’s something to do with number 1 or 3.
I didn’t get the chance to actually comment on your real post earlier. I agree with a lot of what you say, but I do understand why people do it.
That said it does upset me – Someone joking about suicide at work was what led to my recent sequence of events (HR referral to Occupational Health, seeing my GP etc) – it was when someone made a joke to me about not killing myself over a stressful piece of work that I went pale and stumbled over my words – and then ended up confessing it wasn’t a joking matter to my boss..
July 2, 2008 at 8:58 pm
A very good post indeed, sometimes I get so annoyed that people’s need for help when they feel suicidal is not taken seriously…
It’s certainly something not to be laughed at.
July 3, 2008 at 12:12 am
Er, my favourite song? Harsh, I have lots I listen to at different times!
Senzafine, by Lacuna Coil, or Immobile, by Autour de Lucie.
July 3, 2008 at 1:22 am
Erin- I liked your video, somehow it was lighthearted and was in animals, it was the youtube one in my post that really got to me, bout the seriousness of the methods that he pretended to try and that it was the first video that came up when I searched suicide. Really I was hoping for something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWwZg6rLGt4
Intothesystem- I suppose joking about it can be helpful if that was what mde you reach out for help, personally i just hate it whenever it is mentioned as my face goes very red and i worry that people will know that i have tried it.
Alison- I remember a guy in hospital told a member of staff that he was very suicidal and needed help, they did nothing needless to say I wasnt very surprised that when they did a random room search they found pills upon pills upon pills saved up in his room to overdose on. And guess what, they still didnt help him they just searched everyone elses rooms again.
Chouette- Right im off to youtube now to listen to your music, ohhh what fun I really havnt listened to much music for about six months now so all these fave songs are shiney and new for me.
Remember to keep your recomendations coming, I need as many as possible for this post.
July 3, 2008 at 2:18 am
People laugh at things which are too hard to understand and things which are too dark to want to understand. But there’s a difference between humour and mockery. People definitely mock what they feel are weaknesses in character… those who are willing to learn about clinical and manic depressions will stop, but there will always be people who will never understand, and never want to…
Occasionally I try to bring some humour into my blog, I think there have been some decent suicide jokes made. I understand why you’re angry, it’s a stage in our Recovery where we start to get pissed off at the general ignorance, then even more pissed off when hordes of us mentally ill people don’t leave our rooming houses and basement apartments and join in the Crusade.
It’s an anger that generally comes when we first learn about how totally lacking we are in support and facilities. After a while that anger will get to the point where it starts to effect your health and your recovery (ie: “fuck it, no one understands so why bother”), or you can laugh and get on with recovering. Personally I think we Recovery Bloggers have a tendency to get too maudlin and dark and caught up in stereotypes… so maybe one of us should have a Suicide Humour Blogging Challenge to see who can come up with the best joke.
Favourite songs…
1. Haunted; The Pogues, Syd & Nancy Soundtrack
2. Love Kills; Circle Jerks, Syd & blahblah
3. Surfing On Heroin; The Forgotten Rebels, Pride ‘n Disgrace
4. O Mary Don’t You Weep; Bruce Springsteen, We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions
5.The Man Comes Around; Johnny Cash, American IV: The Man Comes Around
The “Mental Health Information” blog that has linked to you is actually something called a “splog”. It’s a site which searches out keywords in posts and headlines, then steals your content to use to sell products. You can find out more about them here: http://exposingsploggers.wordpress.com/
July 3, 2008 at 2:20 am
I think I screwed the html. Weird. The link was only meant to be on “some humour”. Sorry about that.
July 3, 2008 at 8:00 am
personally i just hate it whenever it is mentioned as my face goes very red and i worry that people will know that i have tried it. – colouredmind
That’s pretty much what happens to me and I’m still not sure if me getting help as a result is a good or a bad thing!
July 3, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Ooh, Kate Bush – Hannah, you have taste! Add Laura Marling to that and we should get along just great!
OK, well, as you already know it’s gotta be My Manic And I. By Laura Marling. Of course… who else? And I like Night Terror and New Romantic and Blackberry Stone, so… I guess you get to choose.
Apart from her, I like Psycho Killer by Talking Heads and Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t've)? by The Buzzcocks and I Don’t Like Mondays by the Boomtown Rats… and I could go on but I won’t because I am considerate that way.
Suzy x
July 3, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Gabriel- mamoth youtube session tonight to check out all the tracks you have listed. I suppose the thing that annoys me is humor in a form to mock suicide, humor to cover up a lack of understanding and knowlege of sucide is forgivable because before i was “ill” I couldnt understand it.
Intothesystem- are you questioning actually getting help or the way that it helped you decide to get help
Suzy- I havnt heard blackberrry stone, only old stone i will have to go and check it out- ohhhh the excitement. Dont like mondays is a fantastic track too.
July 4, 2008 at 12:47 am
This bothers me a lot also- which is partially why I started my blog.
I believe people are afraid of what he or she doesn’t understand, and so either ignore it, laugh at it, or disguard their feeling on what has to be done. What did you do when Britney Spears shaved her head last summer?
When people don’t want to understand something, it breeds ignorance. And there seems to be much of it surrounding suicide and related topics.